[GoLUG] ChatGPT vs. Grok (was: This article is utter nonsense)

Wayne Wayne at TradeTimer.com
Thu Apr 3 16:29:05 EDT 2025


One of things I personally look for in an AI chat/search tool is that it not require an account and/or logging in. Others are that the data LLM be relatively up to date and there is the ability to ask several followup questions/prompts. The few that I've found that meet those requirements, in MY preferred order, are:
  
  https://you.com - the most current information; seemingly unlimited followups
  https://iAsk.ia - also quite up to date; limits on followups
  https://duck.ai - free access to four different models; unknown limits; neither model is up to date
  https://perplexity.ai - limits followup prompts; acting strange lately; sometimes won't run (might be my browser)
  https://phind.com - sometimes won't run (might be my browser)
  https://chatgpt.com - the least up to date; limits followup questions; moving toward requiring login
  https://grok.com - requires account or login; never got it working so couldn't evaluate

There may be others that I'm not aware of. Isn't there one that just came out of China? I'm always looking for others.

Duck.ai with the models Claude 3 Haiku and o3-mini are the only ones that actually used the URL I provided to answer the following:

The AppImage for Shotcut version 22-12-21 is less that half the size of the current version. Plz explain with specifics. Refer to the release notes here. Obviously all changes between those two versions need to be taken into account:
https://www.shotcut.org/download/releasenotes/

Questions about current political items can show how up to date a model is.

YMMV depending on your needs for timely information and the types of questions. Sometimes results for topics can be flat-out wrong and quite entertaining.

I've used most of the above to help with scripting and found every one of them to be a great aid, though none can be counted on to write a complex script that doesn't require debugging and reworking. They all do a pretty good job of explaining and commenting an existing script.


On 4/2/25 12:46 AM, Syeed Ali wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 18:28:40 -0500
> Steve Litt <slitt at troubleshooters.com> wrote:
> 
>> ChatGPT has doubled my productivity creating websites and writing
>> software. The SEO it taught me has boosted the traffic to
>> 444domains.com at least tenfold in a month. It has assisted me with
>> aesthetics, because I don't have an aesthetic bone in my body.
> 
> You really have to check out https://grok.com
> 
> I went really hard with ChatGPT, from its growing pains to its
> evolution.  It's rough in a lot of ways.
> 
> Grok, on the other hand, is a marvel I wasn't expecting this early in
> the evolution of this type of AI.  For example, I didn't just get
> programming help for a language I knew nothing about,  It found and
> read its online documentation to help me.
> 
> I dumped a bunch of code into text files, uploaded them, asked it to
> analyze everything, and it found the structure of code linking it all
> together and gave me a comprehensive breakdown of what it understood,
> and made a list of suggestions.  A really good list.
> 
> According to it, it has no functional memory limit as-such.  It does
> not suffer from ChatGPT's amnesia or hallucinations.  Functionally it's
> just got an incredible memory and you ought to keep it on-topic
> per-chat to make the best out of it.
> 
> It can search the net.  I mean really really search it.
> 
> You can tell it to take its time thinking for longer, or searching
> harder.  What a godsend to drop complex code and just say "I like this
> code, but study it and keep it for reference later".
> 
> Try it!
> 
> Hell, copy your whole chat log from ChatGPT into a text file, tell Grok
> you did that and to untangle and understand your session.
> 


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