[GoLUG] Mailing list, long term.

[David Billsbrough]

Hello SteveT and all,

So in an alternative version of 'mindmeld' called just for *fun* called a network 'groupware' mail system with distribution list acting as
a glorified 'mail-lists (tm)'.

This should only piss off the last eight users of Novell Netware and not Cisco and the planet of Vulcan after the *future* first contact.   :-)


>> The server side is just a new improved mail 'tossing' system.

> No idea what mail tossing is.

**** https://www.bbsing.com/bbsmailtosser/bbsmailtosser.html ****

This should take less than 20 minutes ... to grasp!

Even the Internet mail  (Mail Transport Agent) does most of the same thing ...

Like putting your personal mail in the /var/mail/logname directory structure  ...  yes?

SteveT might have said something like:

> Anyway, my 20 minutes of research about BBSes yielded some interesting things. Among them, I can get this thing out faster
>  if MindMeld *temporarily* has no facility for account creation, and people just email me asking for an account with a specific
> (non-valuable) password.  A real sign-up system can come soon after.

You might want to have this step half way worked out early in development or would you have create a *cookie* system to fake a
*state-based* connection to your server side of the "mindmeld" mail-list system.

Also note to Barry:  I like your idea of basing it like a Usenet clone-like system. But I would be using a modern version of *Tin* and not
a emacs-type client.   ** there are many ways the skin this cat **


regards,

David
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David Billsbrough -- Amateur Radio Callsign: KC4ZVW
Orange City, Florida * grid square: EL98iw * https://www.kc4zvw.us/

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Litt <slitt at 444domains.com>
Sent: Aug 16, 2025 6:23 PM
To: <golug at golug.org>
Subject: Re: [GoLUG] Mailing list, long term.


On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 11:54:52 +0000
David Billsbrough wrote:

> Hello Steve and all,
>
> What Steve is looking for is a modern version of the original 80/90's
> BBS system without wording it that way.

MindMeld is much simpler.

>
> Think about it ... as as easy and quick to learn as the first group
> of computer user introduced to desktop computing.

Not with all the ? . and other 1 char commands you need to memorize. If
that were easy, we'd all be using tiling window managers.

Don't get me wrong: In a world of Steve Litt clones I'd choose
something more like BBS, or maybe even use BBS, but computer users of
today are neither as smart nor as patient as those in the 1980's, so
reasonable accommodations must be made.

>
> So just drop the ASCII art and Text 'door' games.

That's for sure.

> Just make the 'client' easy to install and instead of talking RS-232
> serial but uses TCP/IP and you have .....

Don't they talk Telnet?

> https://www.synchro.net/

LOL, that link is clear as mud.

> so in the GO language you port for Mac (UNIX) and Linux and *BSD user
> machines.

Wait. If you mean the client, I'm not writing it in Go, given I have
maybe 12 hours experience with Go. My mamma didn't raise no fool, I'm
doing the client in Python, which I've used off and on since the final
year of the 20th century. The only reason I'm using Go for the server
is Go is kind of built with making servers in mind.

>
> The server side is just a new improved mail 'tossing' system.

No idea what mail tossing is.

Anyway, my 20 minutes of research about BBSes yielded some interesting
things. Among them, I can get this thing out faster if MindMeld
*temporarily* has no facility for account creation, and people just
email me asking for an account with a specific (non-valuable) password.
A real sign-up system can come soon after.

Thanks,

SteveT