[GoLUG] "Who are we to think has greater knowledge on the topic?" "Me. Seriously" -- Steve Litt

[Jay]

Greetings,

On Thu, 28 Aug 2025, kc-golug at chadwicks.me.uk wrote:

> 27 Aug 2025 23:31:21 Barry Fishman <barry at ecubist.org>:
>
>> SSDs made boot times not an issue, the long boot times
>> people were discussing would not have been brought up.  I think this was
>> way before SSDs were cheap enough for most Arch users to consider.
>
> No one had long boot times or were discussing them until Freedesktop 
> posted systemd booted faster and the likes of Tom Gunderson forcefully 
> switched Arch init to systemd saying anyone who wants to stick with 
> scripts can maintain them as he won't any more. He said systemd was 
> amasingly faster but actually it was just his new laptop had an SSD.

    I was NEVER bummed out by "boot time" as my machines were booted only a 
couple times per year.  Same with my workstations.  They just didn't need 
to be rebooted *unless* you wanted/needed the newest kernel to become 
active.

    If I had a laptop, THAT might be another matter, with booting it 
perhaps multiple times per day.  Most people I knew with laptops simply 
put them to sleep when not in use.  So they woke up immediately!

    But I worked from home and didn't need a laptop.  So...to each his own, 
but boot time was no big deal what so ever.

    The INIT files were EASY to maintain and control what loaded and in 
what order (runlevel).  That was SO EASY to teach to my students at 
Washtenaw Community College.  SystemD was a major pain-in-the-ass and 
students had a real hard time with it.

    Just my two cents.,,,

       --- Jay Nugent