[GoLUG] "Who are we to think has greater knowledge on the topic?" "Me. Seriously" -- Steve Litt

[Barry Fishman]

On 2025-08-28 01:03:08 +01, kc-golug at chadwicks.me.uk wrote:
> 27 Aug 2025 23:31:21 Barry Fishman <barry at ecubist.org>:
>
>> SSDs made boot times not an issue, the long boot times
>> people were discussing would not have been brought up.  I think this was
>> way before SSDs were cheap enough for most Arch users to consider.
>
> No one had long boot times or were discussing them until Freedesktop
> posted systemd booted faster and the likes of Tom Gunderson forcefully
> switched Arch init to systemd saying anyone who wants to stick with
> scripts can maintain them as he won't any more. He said systemd was
> amasingly faster but actually it was just his new laptop had an
> SSD.

Were you reading the same mailing list as me?  Or using the same Arch
Linux distribution?  Do you think that Tom Gunderson was that dumb?

I went back to the arch-devel archive and looked at the
discussion around the beginning of the transition to Systemd.

People here can look at it themselves:
https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-dev-public/2012-July/023258.html

You can draw your own conclusion about how autocratic Tom Gunderson was,
or whether the switch had anything to do with boot times.  My speculation
about the effect of the FreeDesktop does not seem to be mentioned
either.  Maybe someone else can find these references in the discussions
on the list (or some other mailing list).

-- 
Barry Fishman