[GoLUG] LLMs can't reason

[Ron]

Kyle Terrien wrote on 2025-06-16 22:29:

>>> It shouldn’t need to be pointed out that the philosophies which 
>>> argue against the existence of a soul are much younger
>> 
>> Irrelevant.
> 
> It is very relevant.  Those propounding a new theory have to 
> disprove the old one.  So far, they have not.

No, the proponents of the original theory don't get to claim some kind
of squatters' rights just because they (claim they) were there first.


The original "theorists" never provided evidence in the first place.



> The answers to almost all of your questions are in the resource I 
> linked in the last message.  Here it is again:
> 
> https://www.radioreplies.info/radio-replies-vol-1.php?t=5

Those are *not* *evidence*, not even in the same county as evidence. Not
a single measurement to be seen.

It's just philoso-babble.


> Catholic Apologetics Online

Well, at least that's accurate.


>> So, fish, insects, cows, and worms have souls to animate them?
> 
> Yes, but they have animal souls, not human souls.  (See the above 
> link.)
> 
>> (If so, is it sinful to eat meat?)
> 
> No, because an animal soul is different, and humans are above 
> animals. (See the above link.)

Hindus might differ, but I suppose their religion is wrong because (hand
waving)... We've arrived at our predetermined conclusion!


> Someone actually pulled off a Dr. Frankenstein operation?

You've not heard of a defibrillator before?!?

You've probably been in close vicinity to at least one today:

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-medical-devices/
automated-external-defibrillators-aeds.html





> (If you want the hard details, then see the above link.)

The "Catholic Apologetics Online"?  A pathetic link lacking in any 
evidence whatsoever.






Imagine trying to explain it to aliens from another galaxy who are not
indoctrinated in any theology and have devices that can measure things
beyond our wildest dreams.  Mr Spock from Star Trek, if you wish...

How would you convince them? What empirical (measurable) evidence would
you tell them to look for?